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    Drafting Key Defenders

    On the back of the Fremantle thread, I was thinking about Silvagni and Faulks and how they came to be on the list and it got me wondering about each teams key defenders and how they were drafted/rookied/traded.



    From 2010 I've listed the main two defenders (subjective) and their path to the team.

    Adelaide:
    Bock-Rookie List
    Rutten-Rooke List

    Brisbane:
    Merrett Pick 30
    Maguire-Pick 91

    Carlton:
    Jamison Rookie List
    Bower? Pick 20

    Collingwood
    Reid Pick 8
    Brown Pick 10

    *Very different result if you choose Maxwell/O'Brien (Rookie List/Rookie List)

    Essendon:
    Pears Pick 23
    Fletcher Father/Son

    Fremantle:
    Tarrant Trade
    McPharlin Trade

    Geelong:
    Scarlett Father/Son
    Taylor Pick 17 (Mature Age)

    Hawthorn:
    Gibson Trade North Melbourne
    Gilham Rookie List (delisted Port)

    Melbourne:
    Frawley Pick 12
    Rivers? Pick 27

    North Melbourne:
    Thompson Pick 37
    Grima? Rookie List

    Port Adelaide:
    Chaplin Pick 15
    Carlile Pick 44

    Richmond:
    McGuane Pick 36
    Moore Rookie List

    St Kilda:
    Dawson Rookie List (delisted Hawthorn)
    Fisher Pick 55 (Mature age)

    Sydney:
    Grundy Rookie List
    LRT Pick 29

    *Bolton injured most of season

    West Coast:
    Glass Pick 11
    Mackenzie Pick 29

    Western Bulldogs:
    Lake Pick 71 (Mature age)
    Morris Rookie List


    It's interesting to me how varied the paths are to becoming a key defender at AFL level, in contrast to key forwards who are usually drafted early and very rarely come from rookie lists.

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Additionally, how many of those earlier drafted key defenders were actually drafted as forwards but moved into defence?

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    I know Rutten was drafted as a FF and I am pretty sure Bock was as a CHF.

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Of the new breed, Pears, Frawley, Hurley, Reid and Brown have all been first or early 2nd round draft picks. May be there is a change in the way recruiters think about defenders with the emphasis on defensive football these days?

    Equally, with all the defensive zones in place these days, you could argue that less skilled defensive players can be used as they are somewhat guarded by the defensive zones in place?
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    I wouldn't call Thompson a key defender personally, he was drafted to be a third tall player but unfortunately we dont have a true CHB so has been forced to play that position. I hope Tarrant can take that place next year, because it leaves Thompson to play his true position and provide some rebound. And Grima was taken in the 2008 rookie draft just to clarify, what a steal.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonkers View Post
    I wouldn't call Thompson a key defender personally, he was drafted to be a third tall player but unfortunately we dont have a true CHB so has been forced to play that position. I hope Tarrant can take that place next year, because it leaves Thompson to play his true position and provide some rebound. And Grima was taken in the 2008 rookie draft just to clarify, what a steal.
    Thompson played as a key defender for the Cats magoos team. It's good with him because he can probably play that key defender role or the rebounding role.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post

    Adelaide:

    Bock-Rookie List
    Rutten-Rooke List

    Port Adelaide:
    Chaplin Pick 15
    Carlile Pick 44
    Adelaide's CHB is really Davis now who was a first rounder.

    Port's CHB is probably Trengove and Chaplin the third tall, and Trengove was touted top 5 before he went down with that horror injury.

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    I think you will find ruckman follow a similar route to the key defenders in the sense they usually come through the rookie system, Dean Cox and Aaron Sandilands are two good examples of this.

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Stubz View Post
    I think you will find ruckman follow a similar route to the key defenders in the sense they usually come through the rookie system, Dean Cox and Aaron Sandilands are two good examples of this.
    And the reason I don't want Essendon to take a ruckmen with the first round draft pick! Hopefully they are just playing ducks and drakes to get an Atley or Gaff.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    The most important areas for teams to fill with star players are always the midfield and the forward line, so they will always take up most of the first round or two. Although it helps, you dont always need a fantastic ruckman to win the flag, Hawks showed that in 2008. Likewise, a good key defender can be snapped later in the draft or the rookie draft, because you don't need the best football skills to simply lock down your opponent.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by His_Holiness View Post
    The most important areas for teams to fill with star players are always the midfield and the forward line, so they will always take up most of the first round or two. Although it helps, you dont always need a fantastic ruckman to win the flag, Hawks showed that in 2008. Likewise, a good key defender can be snapped later in the draft or the rookie draft, because you don't need the best football skills to simply lock down your opponent.
    I agree with the first part, however I think that key defenders are required to do more than lock down in today's football, they need to able to provide rebound which I think is why we are seeing more of the younger key defenders taken in the first couple of rounds of the draft as they need to be better footballers than a Presti for example.

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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by PAFCsince1870 View Post
    I agree with the first part, however I think that key defenders are required to do more than lock down in today's football, they need to able to provide rebound which I think is why we are seeing more of the younger key defenders taken in the first couple of rounds of the draft as they need to be better footballers than a Presti for example.
    You'll see more defenders who play a rebounding role off their opponents but every team will still have 1, maybe 2 defenders who's role is solely to stop their opponents.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Most teams have 'stopper' defenders. That won't change. Blake, Dawson, Baker & Dempster are a few guys that come to mind from the Saints.
    It's more about ball use than rebounding, whether these guys can be precise with their possession. (or use it well) Of course, each side should look to posses 2-3 quality rebounding defenders.
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    Re: Drafting Key Defenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonkers View Post
    I wouldn't call Thompson a key defender personally, he was drafted to be a third tall player but unfortunately we dont have a true CHB so has been forced to play that position. I hope Tarrant can take that place next year, because it leaves Thompson to play his true position and provide some rebound. And Grima was taken in the 2008 rookie draft just to clarify, what a steal.
    I agree Clonkers I think we need to play Tarrant as a key defender the signs were there in 2010 he would be a defender and I am pretty sure that Tarrant was drafted as a key forward from the Bendigo Pioneers.
    Grima is a great steal he is just going to get better for us and Thompson can play the 3rd tall rebounding abit more out of defence. If any of our defenders are struggling on their opponent we have options to rotate others onto their key forwards which I think is a positive to have in any side.

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