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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Brett Anderson's top 25 prospects:
    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/...fl-draft-1-25/

    and 26-50:
    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/...l-draft-26-50/

    incredibly useful articles for the next fantasy season with combine results for all players in the 50, injuries players have suffered this season and strengths/weaknesses.

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    What about best prospects at pick 88?

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Would really like Freo to take a gamble on English, think we have enough quality midfield depth to pass up on one of the top 10 mid/flank prospects.

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Geelong and Adelaide have committed to Simpson and Jarman respectively as rookie father sons. That means that if they either is picked by another club in the national draft, they cannot match the offer but will be able to draft them as rookies if they are undrafted in the national draft.

    Collingwood and West Coast have nominated their respective father-son players and can match bids for them in the national draft.

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-2...-phantom-draft

    Twomey's Top 30 in his predicted order. Interesting is Taranto moving up to #2.

    McCluggage the unlucky one to end up at Brisbane

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    And Brett Anderson's
    http://sen.lu/2g22Rpz

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Anyone interested in trying to pick the top 10 again this year?

    AFL site is offering the same deal as the last couple of years, $10,000 for the correct order.

    Haven't had a heap of time to research recently, but have put together a bit of a mash-up of the opinions of Emma Q/Brett Anderson and Cal Twomey to give an in the mix list for the top 10.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...dBg/edit#gid=0

    10 entries would still be splitting $1000 each which is pretty nice. I'd still like to put together some combinations if people are interested.

    Academy bids are as always probably the hardest bit. Sounds like Setterfield will either be bid on by Ess, Carlton or Sydney.
    For Bowes, there has been talk of Freo bidding and plenty of talk of Sydney bidding (don't really understand why Bris wouldn't just bid personally).

    Seems reasonably transparent until the GC-Freo-GC run. There has been some talk about Scrimshaw to Freo, but Emma has a direct quote in one of her articles saying that it'd be hard to see him going before 8 (the 2nd GC pick in that run). Logue, Simpkin, English, Scrimshaw all good chances in that range by the sounds, but fairly up in the air.

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Keen to help! When do entries close? Hopefully can hold out as long as possible for late mail.

    I reckon Freo is going to ruin it though, we're notoriously unpredictable. I feel like we are consistently linked with WA players but rarely pick them early, guys like Brodie/Simpkin/Scrimshaw and even Berry/Hayward and even Marshall could be on the cards. I doubt SPS makes it to us, but we've supposedly sent staff up to Halls Creek a few times this year. Logue just seems like he's linked because he's from WA; with Hamling/Pearce/Collins and maybe Adams coming home next year we probably have greater needs.

    Although this might be of interest; of the 7 academy/father-son bids that took place prior to Pick 40, there was only one instance where the bidding club had traded with the club who the academy/FS was affiliated with (Adelaide bidding on Himmelburg, also traded Hampton from GWS). Which to me suggests that that deals to not bid on a certain player might be involved in trade negotiations.

    So assuming each trade did have some sort of negotiation involved;
    -Freo & Brisbane wouldn't bid on Bowes
    -Carlton, Essendon, Brisbane, Freo and ?? Sydney wouldn't bid on Setterfield - question marks because the GWS-Sydney trade seemed to be an ever pick swap. Setterfield seems unlikely for the number one pick considering none of the major phantoms are running with it. It's hard to see Carlton bidding on Setterfield considering how many gifts they got from GWS via trade this year.

    So in that case, Bowes could slide through to Sydney, whilst Setterfield could go to GC at any one of their picks, or slide out of the 10 altogether.

    In which case;

    1. McGrath (ESS)
    2. Taranto (GWS)
    3. McCluggage (BRIS)
    4. Ainsworth (GC)
    5. SPS (CARL)
    6. (GC)
    7. (FREO)
    8. Setterfield (GWS - matched)
    9. (GC)
    10. Bowes (GC - matched)

    Then permutations of Scrimshaw, Simpkin, Brodie and Logue through the remaining 3 spots.

    Rationale behind Setterfield at 8 was that last year academy prospects seemed to slide further than expected, but to be in the pick 1 conversation Setterfield probably couldn't go too far.
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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Good write-up hedgey.

    Comp closes at 5pm draft night (ie Friday) and its one entry per person so don't enter early if possible.

    Agree that normally wouldn't expect Carlton to bid on Setterfield, but think it has been flagged by all 3 of Emma, Cal and Brett as a possible/likely occurrence.
    The counter argument I guess as to why they would do it would be that Essendon if not picking him, are positioning themselves as the destination if in a couple of years time Setterfield wants to return to Vic. They say come to us, we rated you a top 3 pick.
    Carlton if they also believe Setterfield may return home, match and they can make the same claim. If they pass on him, Essendon seemingly rated him quite a lot higher, so maybe he wants to go to Essendon over Carlton.

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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Didn't realise he was from Vic, both very fair points.

    Too many variables this far out to be having much more than a complete guess, so hopefully a bit more comes out tomorrow and most punters have already submitted their entry. I'll be around all arvo to submit one.
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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    I will be out all day tomorrow, can do one later today if required. Some mail today that Gold Coast are keen on Hayward, may go top 10 & clubs have gone cold on English - will not go top 10.

    So hard to predict this year after the top 5 hedge posted. Emma Quayle's predicted draft order that gets posted later today is the key one as we know.
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    Will be around tomorrow so will put an entry as part of the pool.
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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-2...-keeps-bolting

    INTRIGUE surrounds the top end of this week's NAB AFL Draft as the cat-and-mouse between Fremantle and Gold Coast adds more uncertainty to the destinations of key players.

    The Dockers' first pick (scheduled to be No.7 overall before any academy bids) is wedged between the Suns' second and third selections, with top-10 prospects Griffin Logue, Jack Scrimshaw, Will Brodie and Jy Simpkin all in the mix for both clubs.

    But as Suns list manager Scott Clayton told AFL.com.au's Road to the Draft podcast this week, there is a tactical element to Gold Coast's strategy as it attempts to land the players it ranks highest despite their four early selections being weaved between three other clubs.

    That could mean the Suns look to take athletic key defender Logue with pick six if they believe the Dockers are most keen on the West Australian with the next selection.

    Fremantle has been linked strongly to Victorian pair Jack Scrimshaw and Jy Simpkin, and have met up with the duo in the past week for further interviews.

    Scrimshaw and Simpkin are also considered to be in the Suns' mix, which has made it difficult to ascertain the priorities for both recruiting teams. Brodie has been interviewed recently by the Suns but not the Dockers.

    But because of the mind games being played by both clubs in the lead-in to the draft, the positions in the back half of the top 10 have largely been in flux.

    If Logue is taken by the Suns at No.6 and Simpkin joins the Dockers, Scrimshaw would seem a good fit to join Gold Coast with the next selection. The Suns have been long linked to the attacking half-back throughout the season.

    Under that scenario, Brodie is a chance to make it through to Sydney's pick No.9, where it is expected he would be snapped up by the Swans to join their midfield.

    Essendon will go into draft day with the No.1 choice remaining a secret, with Andrew McGrath, Hugh McCluggage and GWS academy product Will Setterfield in contention for the selection.

    Whichever way the Bombers go will create a ripple effect for at least the first five picks, particularly given the Giants would immediately grab McGrath at No.2 should Essendon not pick him. That would leave Brisbane likely to draft Ben Ainsworth at No.3 and the Suns to take Tim Taranto at No.4.

    Later in the first round, Western Jets midfielder Daniel Venables could be in the running to be picked by the Brisbane Lions with their second choice, while attacking half-back Alex Witherden could join Essendon at the start of the second round.

    North Melbourne may also jump ahead of West Coast to pick versatile Vic Country captain Jarrod Berry, which could leave the Eagles to take WA ruckman Tim English.

    GWS academy prospect Isaac Cumming also looms as a possible first-round choice after being a late call-up to attend the draft at the Hordern Pavilion on Friday night.

    Cumming, who played for North Adelaide in the SANFL this year and is from Broken Hill, has attracted the interest of Adelaide and Port Adelaide, while the Swans have also been linked as possibly placing a bid on the half-back.

    Here is AFL.com.au's 'Late Mail' edition of The Phantom Draft, with an update in the latter part of the top 10.

    Pick 1 – Essendon – Andrew McGrath
    Pick 2 – Greater Western Sydney – Tim Taranto
    Pick 3 – Brisbane Lions – Hugh McCluggage
    Pick 4 – Gold Coast – Ben Ainsworth
    Pick 5 – Greater Western Sydney (matching Carlton's bid) – Will Setterfield
    Pick 6 – Carlton – Sam Petrevski-Seton
    Pick 7 – Gold Coast – Griffin Logue
    Pick 8 – Fremantle – Jy Simpkin
    Pick 9 – Gold Coast – Jack Scrimshaw
    Pick 10 – Gold Coast (matching Sydney's bid) – Jack Bowes
    Pick 11 – Sydney – Will Brodie
    Pick 12 – Greater Western Sydney (matching North Melbourne's bid) – Harry Perryman
    Pick 13 – North Melbourne – Oliver Florent
    Pick 14 – West Coast – Jarrod Berry
    Pick 15 – Adelaide – Jordan Gallucci
    Pick 16 – Port Adelaide – Will Hayward
    Pick 17 – Brisbane Lions – Alex Witherden
    Pick 18 – Port Adelaide – Todd Marshall
    Pick 19 – Western Bulldogs – Tim English
    Pick 20 – Sydney – Brennan Cox
    Pick 21 – Essendon – Daniel Venables
    Pick 22 – Brisbane Lions – Jordan Ridley
    Pick 23 – Brisbane Lions – Jack Graham
    Pick 24 – Greater Western Sydney (matching St Kilda's bid) – Isaac Cumming
    Pick 25 – St Kilda – Sam Powell-Pepper
    Pick 26 – Geelong – Josh Battle
    Pick 27 – Carlton – Willem Drew
    Pick 28 – Western Bulldogs – Cedric Cox
    Pick 29 – Richmond – Elliott Himmelberg
    Pick 30 – Collingwood – Shai Bolton
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-2...-keeps-bolting
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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    Get on Will Setterfield at pick one
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    Re: 2016 AFL Draft thread

    If Will Brodie is available and we don't take him I will lose my shit. After watching his highlights not sure how he won't be gone in the top 5.

    Would be like Freo to take another half forward though.
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