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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Given the gap between Gawn and the rest of the competition I'm glad that they didn't waste the extra slot on a ruckman.

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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    I'm surprised Adelaide's Lynch made it myself.

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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Grundy the only Swan who is unlucky though hard to argue him over any of the other guys.

    It appears that a lot of the bias has been put towards team success. I can't think of a single reason for Scully to be in over Zerrett, Shiel, Priddis, Zorko, Cripps or Gibbs. Would argue Gaff is basically the same. It's like they had to pick a couple of wingmen for the squad instead of taking better midfielders.

    Otherwise it's pretty hard to fault, think Lynch (Ade) is an odd call, NRoo certainly ahead for mine and I'd probably have had Watts also but that's a coinflip and I don't mind the team success tiebreaker winning out.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    I'm pretty happy for Scully to be in. Guy was huge early in the season when they established themselves as a genuine team.

    Also think the AA squad should recognise career best seasons more than it probably does.
    Guys like Gaff, Steven, Enright etc. have been solid, but it also hasn't been their best season/s.

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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    What can you do but laugh?

    I mean, when Danny Frawley is the smartest bloke on the selection panel...
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    So this would be my AA side, I'm using the official squad. Yes, Zorko, Zerrett and Cripps would probably be in my final side but they're not in the official squad so they're out. I've already covered the snubs (add Gray to the list).

    As always, positions matter to me so midfielders wont be finding their way into positions they didn't play just to squeeze them in.

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    BP - Corey Enright - Just a classic player, he genuinely seems to be getting better.
    FB - Daniel Talia - They haven't exactly given much choice here, Talia was, imo, the best key back and the guy I thought was 2nd isn't in the squad so it's pretty easy.
    BP - Heath Shaw - A great season, faded a bit over the 2nd half but his first half was next level and I'm not sure he was beaten all season.
    HBF - Sam Docherty - Has had a truly great season. Ended up being the best rebounder of the group and when you add the intercept play and that he rarely loses a 1 on 1 it makes it an easy choice.
    CHB - Alex Rance - As mentioned on the Talia comment, wouldn't be in the squad if Grundy was available but Rance for mine was a pretty easy third choice in the end, he had a great season and while the media make him impossible to like he's a great player.
    HBF - Dane Rampe - Gets the 3rd tall nod for his versatility and because the clear best defense in the league deserves recognition. The guys who miss out are all stiff here.
    W - Dan Hannebery - Just a fantastic season and as the only genuine wingman in the squad who I think deserves to be there he's an absolute lock for one of the wings.
    C - Patrick Dangerfield - Would be shocked if he doesn't win the Brownlow and he's put together one of the all time great seasons.
    W - Sam Mitchell - He plays all over the shop and thus floats onto my wing. I don't think Gaff or Scully deserved the squad this season and Mitchell has spent time on the wing and deserves to be in the squad.
    HFF - Luke Parker - The squad legitimately doesn't have enough forwards to not pick a midfielder here and there really are only two midfielders in this group that also spent significant time forward.
    CHF - Lance Franklin - The squad again left out probably his biggest competition for this spot. Not tough at all.
    HFF - Marcus Bontempelli - Toby Greene playing as a full time forward kicked less than a goal a game more than Bontempelli and honestly for me as a full time full forward in a team that plays a super high scoring style he needed to be kicking 2 goals a game. That said, this was a very tough call because Greene has been great this year.
    FP - Eddie Betts - Easiest choice in the entire squad. He's daylight better than any other small forward, like he's at an A+ and the next best is a C grade for mine in comparison.
    FF - Josh J. Kennedy - You win the Coleman in dominant fashion and you're in my team.
    FP - Cyril Rioli - This one was super tough also. It's basically whether you go the 3rd tall (Lynch GC), the 2nd ruck (Jenkins literally the only option) or the extra small. Cyril gets in on his defensive work (a real weakness on the other guys) and his ruthlessly good finishing.
    Ruck - Max Gawn - This might actually be the easiest given he's the only ruckman in the squad, not that it would be much more difficult had they picked another ruck.
    Rov - Dustin Martin - Has earned this spot this year, has been really great in a woeful team.
    RuRo - Lachie Neale - His efforts in a terrible team have been simply absurd. His ability to do what he has done with no ruckman, no midfield support and basically no hope around him is just crazy. I reckon he'll end up getting punished at the end of the day because their top midfield was basically Danyle Pearce and Blakely alongside him for a chunk of the season.

    Int - Josh P. Kennedy - Has finished the season at full steam, he was still really good in the first half but has reasserted himself as Sydney's best midfielder which given two more are in this team says it all.
    Int - Scott Pendlebury - It's amazing that his season feels like it's been poor when by just about any measure it's been absolutely elite, such is his impeccable standard.
    Int - Jack Steven - He faded a fair bit towards the end but was the best through the middle there not named Danger and I'm not big on punishing guys for their teams not being great, especially given I reckon it makes it harder most of the time.
    Int - Rory Sloane - Fantastic season that got better as it went on, really grew into the top midfielder role and embraced the chance.

    Stiffest guys to miss for mine were Simpson, McGovern and Boyd down back, Lynch and Greene up forward and Coniglio, Treloar and Jelwood in the midfield. Hardest part is probably picking a structure up forward to go with, the obvious is 3 and 3 but there are only 3 small forwards and I had a hard time picking Greene over Parker or Bonts.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Using the squad:

    B: Docherty - Talia - Rampe
    HB: Boyd - Tarrant - Shaw
    C: Scully - Dangerfield - Hannebery
    HF: Franklin - Lynch (GC) - Martin
    F: Betts - Kennedy - Jenkins
    R: Gawn - Sloane - Neale
    I: Coniglio - Parker - Treloar - Kennedy

    Very difficult because there's hardly any small forwards in the squad! 4 talls and a mid to go with Betts.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Not sure how Bont doesn't make it
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-0...-team-afl-2016

    AHEAD of the 2016 Virgin Australia AFL All Australian Awards, AFL.com.au reporters have voted for their best performers of the year.

    The forwards and bench in our reporters' All Australian team will be revealed at 3pm AEST.



    Dan Hannebery (Sydney Swans)
    In line for his third All Australian selection, the star Swan ranked No.3 in the AFL for total disposals and didn't miss a game. Fourth in the AFL for inside 50s (114), few argued against the courageous runner.

    Josh Kennedy (Sydney Swans)
    Ranked No.2 in the AFL for clearances behind Carlton's Patrick Cripps (who was not available for selection as he was not in the 40-man squad), Kennedy was the popular pick in the centre. Missed just one game and ranked No.1 for contested possessions.

    Andrew Gaff (West Coast)
    Without doubt the hardest position to pick. There were strong cases for Luke Shuey, Jack Steven and Adam Treloar here, and one push for Tom Scully given the preference for a genuine wingman. Late season form got Gaff over the line. Ranked No.1 for uncontested possessions (22.5 a game).



    Max Gawn (Melbourne)
    The easiest position to fill, given Gawn's clearly superior season and the fact he is only ruck specialist named in the 40-man squad. Played every game and ranked No.1 for hit-outs (42.2 a game).

    Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
    A no-brainer to place the outstanding midfielder of the season on the ball. As dangerous as any player given his ability to win contested ball (ranked No.5) and send the ball inside 50 (ranked No.1). Kicked 23 goals from the midfield.

    Rory Sloane (Adelaide)
    A near unanimous selection, Sloane was hard to position. Some had him on-ball, other had him on a wing or even the interchange. But he is a star and deserves a prominent place in this team. His mix of attack and defensive pressure should guarantee him his first All Australian selection.



    Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
    An All Australian nominee last year, McGovern remained in defence in 2016 and cemented himself as the best intercept mark in the game. Equal-fifth in the AFL for contested marks (2.2 a game).

    Robbie Tarrant (North Melbourne)
    A clear standout as a tall lockdown defender, Tarrant was preferred ahead of Talia by some margin. Played every game and stopped some of the game's best key forwards.

    Dane Rampe (Sydney Swans)
    Nominated by all but one reporter, who preferred Laird, Rampe was an elite intercepter and could play tall or small. Had the ability to control games from defence. Pipped Bulldog Matthew Boyd in this position.



    Heath Shaw (GWS)
    A unanimous pick, Shaw's ability to marshal the defence and spark attack was outstanding, ranking No.1 in the AFL for rebound 50s (172) and average metres gained (562m a game).

    Alex Rance (Richmond)
    Another unanimous pick, Rance was seen as the standout defender all season and is in line for his third consecutive selection. Stood tall under relentless opposition pressure.

    Corey Enright (Geelong)
    A hotly debated position, Enright was preferred over Simpson. If the 34-year-old makes the cut it will be his sixth All Australian selection. His poise, consistency and strength in one-on-ones got him the nod.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    I'm obviously fairly biased, but I find it hard to believe that Rory Laird won't make the team.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Laird needed to play 20+ games to put it beyond doubt.

    That small/mid defender slot is jam packed this year. Shaw locked, Rampe locked and I'd probably lock Enright as well.

    Then you're basically hoping he makes it on the bench. But he did make the AFL's team of the week more weeks than not when he played.

    From Adelaide Betts is a lock, I'll be filthy if Sloane doesn't make it. Jenkins only makes it if they want to shoehorn someone who can play second ruck, but I wouldn't have him in there.

    I don't think Laird or Talia make it now given the push for McGovern and Laird missing so many games.

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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    Quote Originally Posted by hendo8888 View Post
    I'm obviously fairly biased, but I find it hard to believe that Rory Laird won't make the team.
    Agree, he is in competition with the likes of Enright for that spot (Shaw & Rampe I think have the other 2 medium defender spots locked up) but I would have Laird just ahead - maybe those games he missed through injury will hurt his chances in the end.

    I would have Shuey over Gaff also - Gaff had a flat patch after getting knocked out by Jonas. Shuey has been very consistent all year, taken the next step up & real 10 chance in the Brownlow this year.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    If you go on team of the week selections, isn't he like far and away the most picked backman? Even with his missed games?
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    I actually was surprised Laird made the squad because of how many games he missed and the immense competition. He's one I'd be more surprised if he made the team than if he didn't for sure.

    I reckon Talia is the Crow who will get snubbed, again, that genuinely deserves to be in the team. Betts is 100% in. Sloane I'd be shocked if he missed. Talia deserves to be in as the 1st picked KPD for mine but I expect he misses so we can get some good old Vic bias going and make room for Tarrant and Rance can get his honourary position that is reserved at the start of the year whether he earns it or not.

    I think Rampe makes it for Sydney though I still think Grundy should have been the other KPD with Talia more than Rampe should be in the side. Think Parker, Hanners and JPK would all be very hard done by to not make it and would be shocked if Franklin doesn't make the side.

    Reckon McGovern is going to take a spot and JJK is a lock and I personally don't think any other Eagles deserve the nod.
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    Re: All Australian 2016 - Mid Season

    The hype train is firmly with Tarrant and Gov. Talia has no chance.
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