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    2014 AFL Trade Thread

    Timeline:

    September 30 - October 3 AFL Draft Combine

    Friday Oct 3, 2pm - Father/Son and Academy bidding nominations

    Friday Oct 3 - Free agency period begins

    Monday Oct 6, 10am - Father/Son and Academy bidding meeting. Trade Period begins.

    Sunday Oct 12, 5:15pm - Close Free Agency

    Wednesday Oct 15 - 3 day Restricted Agency matching ends.

    Thursday Oct 16. 2pm - Trade period ends.

    Friday Oct 31 - First list lodgement

    Saturday Nov 1 to Wednesday Nov 12 - Free agency period for delisted players

    Thursday Nov 13 - Second list lodgement

    Friday Nov 14 to Fri Nov 28 - Second free agency period for delisted players

    Thursday Nov 27 - National Draft

    Monday Dec 1 - Third list lodgement

    Wednesday Dec 3 - Preseason and Rookie Draft

    Friday Dec 5 - Final list lodgement

    Friday Dec 12 - International rookie list lodgement.




    2014 National Draft Combine invites




    NSW/ACT
    Logan Austin - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Nick Coughlan -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Abe Davis -
    (Potential Syd Academy Player)
    Tom Faul -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Jeremy Finlayson -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Isaac Heeney - (Potential Syd Academy Player)
    Jack Hiscox -
    (Potential Syd Academy Player)
    Brydan Hodgson -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Dougal Howard -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Michael Mattingly -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Tyler Roos - (Potential Bris Father Son)
    Jack Steele -
    (Potential GWS Academy Player)


    NORTHERN TERRITORY
    Nakia Cockatoo

    QUEENSLAND
    Harris Andrews - (Potential Bris Academy Player)
    Liam Dawson -
    (Potential Bris Academy Player)
    Matt Hammelmann -
    (Potential Bris Academy Player)Nick Jackson
    Braydon Preuss -
    (Potential GC Academy Player)
    Matthew Uebergang -
    (Potential Bris Academy Player)
    Lachie Weller


    SOUTH AUSTRALIA
    Peter Bampton
    Caleb Daniel
    Sam Durdin
    Brett Eddy
    Josh Glenn
    Dean Gore
    Cory Gregson
    Declan Hamilton
    Oleg Markov
    Alex Neal-Bullen
    Keenan Ramsey
    Tom Read
    James Rose
    Billy Stretch - (Potential Melb Father Son)
    Harrison Wigg


    TASMANIA
    Josh McGuinness


    VIC COUNTRY
    Daniel Butler
    Christian Buykx-Smith
    Daniel Capiron
    Zaine Cordy - (Potential WB Father Son)
    Jordan Cunico
    Nathan Drummond
    Hugh Goddard
    Daniel Howe
    Tom Lamb
    Jack Lonie
    Caleb Marchbank
    Rowan Marshall
    Patrick McCartin
    Jaden McGrath
    Jackson Nelson
    Lukas Webb


    VIC METRO
    Paul Ahern
    Angus Brayshaw
    Jason Castagna
    Damien Cavka
    Josh Clayton - (Potential Bris Father Son)
    Jordan De Goey
    Harry Dear - (Potential Haw Father Son)
    Liam Duggan
    Corey Ellis
    Matthew Goodyear
    Billy Gowers
    Ed Langdon
    Kyle Langford
    Jayden Laverde
    Jake Lever
    Brayden Maynard
    Daniel McKenzie
    Reece McKenzie
    Connor Menadue
    Touk Miller
    Darcy Moore - (Potential Coll Father Son)
    Daniel Nielson
    Brenton Payne
    Christian Petracca
    Marc Pittonet
    Ed Vickers-Willis
    Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
    Peter Wright


    WESTERN AUSTRALIA
    Aidan Anderson
    Connor Blakely
    Jack Cripps
    Josh Deluca
    Billy Frampton
    Jarrod Garlett
    Tyler Keitel
    Mitch McGovern
    Jermaine Miller-Lewis
    Jarrod Pickett
    Clem Smith
    Francis Watson


    INTERNATIONAL
    Marvin Baynham USA
    Paddy Brophy Ireland
    Evan Bruinsma USA
    Connor McKenna Ireland














    2014 State Combine invites.

    Note: NSW/ACT, NT and Tas nominees will likely attend the Vic State Screening

    Dates: Vic - Sat Oct 4, SA - Sat Oct 11, WA - Sun Oct 12.



    NSW/ACT
    Liam Griffiths - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
    Jordan Foote
    - (Potential Syd Academy Player)

    NORTHERN TERRITORY
    Marcus Hamilton


    QUEENSLAND
    Robert Blood - (Potential GC Academy Player)
    Paul Hunter
    Will Kristelly - (Potential Bris Academy Player)


    SOUTH AUSTRALIA
    Sam Baulderstone
    Mac Bower
    Henry Carey
    Brad Coulson
    Ben Edwards
    Adam Gulden
    Josh Hone
    Jake Johansen
    Conor McLean
    Matt Panos
    Zac Richards
    Peter Spurling
    Brett Turner
    Jesse Watchman
    Callum Wilkie


    TASMANIA
    Matt Hanson
    Caleb Hislop
    Tim Jones
    Mitch Rainbird
    Josh Watts

    VFL
    Daniel Coghlan
    Michael Hartley
    Jack Johnstone
    Adam Marcon
    Nick Newman
    Jake Owen
    Adam Saad
    Sam Tagliabue
    Shannon Taylor


    VIC COUNTRY
    Sam Bennett
    Bailey Dale
    Daniel Davie
    Nick Dixon
    Billy Evans
    Campbell Floyd
    Dylan Hodge
    Harrison Kol
    Joe Maishman
    Oscar McDonald
    Nick Mellington
    David Mennen
    Teia Miles
    Jesse Palmer
    Tom Templeton
    Aaron Wilson


    VIC METRO
    Ben Allan
    Hugh Beasley
    Will Fordham
    Jayden Foster - (Potential WB Father/Son)
    Taylor Grace
    Matt Jackson
    Bailey Jordan
    Mark Kovacevic
    Michael Manteit
    Garrett McDonagh
    Sean McLaren
    Toby McLean
    Billy Myers
    Rielly O'Brien
    Fraser Pearce
    Rory Sheridan-Ferrie
    Jayden Short
    Jack Sinclair
    Sam Switkowski
    Ryan Tester
    Lachlan Waddell
    Tom Wilkinson


    WESTERN AUSTRALIA
    Brenden Abbott
    Matthew Ah Siu
    Sam Bevan
    Blaine Boekhorst
    Darcy Cameron
    Rick Cary
    Adam Creeper
    Jarrod Hardisty
    Alex Howard
    Ryan Lim
    Cameron Loersch
    Dylan Nelson
    Matthew Palfrey
    Haiden Schloithe
    Bradley Walsh
    Alec Waterman - (Potential WCE Father/Son)
    Dylan Winton
    Shane Yarran
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Nice work divvy.

    Also, fwiw, the mature agers above (may have missed 1 or two):

    National combine:
    Brett Eddy (South Adelaide)
    Josh Glenn (Centrals)
    Mitch McGovern (Claremont)

    State:
    Sam Baulderstone (Norwood)
    Matt Panos (Norwood)
    Dan Coghlan (Essendon VFL)
    Sam Tagliabue (Essendon VFL)
    Adam Saad (Coburg)
    Michael Hartley (Coburg)
    Jack Johnstone (Williamstown)
    Jake Owen (Williamstown)
    Adam Marcon (Williamstown)
    Nic Newman (Frankston)
    Shannon Taylor (Frankston)
    Blaine Boekhorst (Swan Districts)
    Darcy Cameron (Claremont)
    Brendan Abbott (Claremont)
    Rick Cary (Swan Districts)
    Haiden Schloithe (South Fremantle)
    Shane Yarran (Subiaco)
    Alex Howard (Swan Districts)
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Interesting to see Matt Panos back in there. Was a lead up full-forward in his junior days and failed to get a chance at AFL level as he wasn't able to do anything else. Has gone to Norwood and from all reports has been playing as a midfielder.

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    I think Eddy is the leading goal kicker in the SANFL.

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dylan123 View Post
    I think Eddy is the leading goal kicker in the SANFL.
    Correct.

    Collingwood fans may also remember him from their VFL side in 2011-12.

    Nearly drafted in 2011 but busted his ACL. Understandably it has taken him a little time to find his feet again

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Half random statement, half draft related, but is Dillon Viojo-Rainbow the greatest name of ALL time or wat?

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Still impartial to Che Cockatoo-Collins.
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wogitalia View Post
    Still impartial to Che Cockatoo-Collins.
    One of my absolute favourites as a young kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben the Gooner View Post
    One of my absolute favourites as a young kid.
    Good and fun player, better name
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Has been a bit of talk this year about the NSW/QLD academies, where by the Swans, Giants, Suns and Lions effectively get first dibs on players from their home states.

    This is largely due to the Swans' leading academy player this year Isaac Heeney who the Swans are likely to pick with their first rounder. Heeney is rated a top 5 pick by many.

    There have also been some suggestions that the academy/FS bidding system may be overhauled.
    CLUBS will pay a fairer price for young talent if the AFL adopts a revised father-son and Academy bidding system presented to AFL CEOs.

    Under the proposal, each draft pick would be assigned value according to a statistical formula that will allocate points to each draft selection.

    These values would then be used to determine the fair price a club should pay if it wants to acquire a father-son or Academy selection.

    Under the current system a club only has to select the nominated player with its next available pick if an opposition club bids for him.

    The proposed system would also include a discount or credit to ensure clubs investing in father-son and academy programs retained enough incentive to continue to invest in developing that talent.

    If accepted it would mean that a club might have to use more than just its first-round pick if acquiring highly sought-after talent.
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-0...idding-changes

    The debate seems likely to get a whole lot larger next season if no changes are made to the current system.

    Callum Mills, who is a Swans Academy member, eligible for next season's draft, played his 2nd NEAFL game on the weekend for the Swans reserves as a 17 year old. Now we know the NEAFL isn't exactly the same standard as the SANFL/WAFL/VFL. His stats for the game: 21 kicks, 19 handballs, 40 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles.
    There are some suggestions that at this early stage, Mills would be the #1 pick in an open market. A lot can happen in 12 months but f*** me those are impressive numbers. Seems absolutely ludicrous that the Swans should get two top 5 picks in two years for the price of effectively two end of first round picks.

    I understand the principle of the Academies, to allow more talent from QLD/NSW access to the elite pathways, and to in general get more guys from those regions drafted, but really, does Sydney in any way deserve another leg up? Again, I reckon you can make a much stronger argument that GWS and GC should continue to have first access to the Academy players, because after all they don't have the opportunity to sign Father Son options like many other clubs. But Sydney and the Lions now have both the FS and the Academy players. Just imagine if Joe Daniher had in fact chosen to go to Sydney (where he was eligible to go). That would've meant that in the last 3 years and the next 2, they would've picked up as many as 4 guys (Tom Mitchell, Daniher, Heeney & Mills) rated as top 5-10 draft picks for end of first round picks. Seems beyond farcical.

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    I think the academy itself has to stay. I just think that they need to remove AFL club's participation in it.

    This isn't so much a Sydney thing (even if they are the barometer for public interest here) it is the ridiculous advantage it can provide 4 teams in the comp.

    If Adelaide or Port got first dibs on the best SA talent they could have had all of Trengove, Hurn, Gibbs, Griffen & Cooney running around for SA based clubs and would be absolute powerhouses.

    Same for the Perth clubs if they got first dibs on the WA talent.

    The market needs to develop, but the AFL should take on that burden and remove the inherent inequality there.
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Why is it the Father Son and Academy picks are being put into the same basket? I'd like to see the Father Son system stay the exact same myself, maybe because Adelaide is yet to have a father son pick yet and might in the next few years so it would be shit to have to pay more.

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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    Father son picks got a massive overhaul after the Geelong era where they got Ablett, Ablett, Hawkins and others from FS picks in the mid 30s/40s.

    That's why we have bidding.

    The academy is very different, 4 clubs are getting access to the best talent in their state and only have to give up minimal costing to get these players. The opportunities to keep get players fro the academy is much more consistent than finding a draftable kid from the handful of players who played 100+ games for your club. That is why they are separate imo. Because the chance that this becomes another huge advantage for a select few clubs really needs to be altered before it creates an imbalance in the league.
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    Re: 2014 AFL Draft/Trade Thread

    I assume one of those Ablett's should be Scarlett?

    If the overhaul then forced these clubs to bid on them like the father/son picks then I've got no issue.

    But with the mention on father/son picks it seems they want to clamp down further on this as well as change how players from the academy are drafted.


    Edit: Completely forgot about Nathan
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    Yeah I agree. FS should certainly be different.

    I would've thought that the ability of the Qld/NSW clubs to have these academy players train with them and play with their reserves' sides would be advantage enough. Come draft time they would already have a far greater idea of the worth of the players than other clubs.

    I believe for example FS prospects are only allowed to train with their aligned club in their draft year. Prior to that they are prohibited from being too involved with them, yet the academy players are given a leg up by training in the elite environment earlier. I have no issue with that at all, but it's unnecessary to then allow priority access from the clubs .

    The top end talent doesn't need to be tied to the Qld/Nsw clubs to be drafted. And if other players in the academies are good enough to be drafted then there's a fair chance that they remain in their home states anyway, much like how Adelaide clubs are more likely to draft SA players and WA clubs the same with WA players to remove the go home factor.

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