2014 AFL Trade Thread

[divvydan]

Timeline:

September 30 - October 3 AFL Draft Combine

Friday Oct 3, 2pm - Father/Son and Academy bidding nominations

Friday Oct 3 - Free agency period begins

Monday Oct 6, 10am - Father/Son and Academy bidding meeting. Trade Period begins.

Sunday Oct 12, 5:15pm - Close Free Agency

Wednesday Oct 15 - 3 day Restricted Agency matching ends.

Thursday Oct 16. 2pm - Trade period ends.

Friday Oct 31 - First list lodgement

Saturday Nov 1 to Wednesday Nov 12 - Free agency period for delisted players

Thursday Nov 13 - Second list lodgement

Friday Nov 14 to Fri Nov 28 - Second free agency period for delisted players

Thursday Nov 27 - National Draft

Monday Dec 1 - Third list lodgement

Wednesday Dec 3 - Preseason and Rookie Draft

Friday Dec 5 - Final list lodgement

Friday Dec 12 - International rookie list lodgement.

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2014 National Draft Combine invites




NSW/ACT
Logan Austin - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Nick Coughlan - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Abe Davis - (Potential Syd Academy Player)
Tom Faul - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Jeremy Finlayson - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Isaac Heeney - (Potential Syd Academy Player)
Jack Hiscox - (Potential Syd Academy Player)
Brydan Hodgson - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Dougal Howard - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Michael Mattingly - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Tyler Roos - (Potential Bris Father Son)
Jack Steele - (Potential GWS Academy Player)


NORTHERN TERRITORY
Nakia Cockatoo

QUEENSLAND
Harris Andrews - (Potential Bris Academy Player)
Liam Dawson - (Potential Bris Academy Player)
Matt Hammelmann - (Potential Bris Academy Player)Nick Jackson
Braydon Preuss - (Potential GC Academy Player)
Matthew Uebergang - (Potential Bris Academy Player)
Lachie Weller


SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Peter Bampton
Caleb Daniel
Sam Durdin
Brett Eddy
Josh Glenn
Dean Gore
Cory Gregson
Declan Hamilton
Oleg Markov
Alex Neal-Bullen
Keenan Ramsey
Tom Read
James Rose
Billy Stretch - (Potential Melb Father Son)
Harrison Wigg


TASMANIA
Josh McGuinness


VIC COUNTRY
Daniel Butler
Christian Buykx-Smith
Daniel Capiron
Zaine Cordy - (Potential WB Father Son)
Jordan Cunico
Nathan Drummond
Hugh Goddard
Daniel Howe
Tom Lamb
Jack Lonie
Caleb Marchbank
Rowan Marshall
Patrick McCartin
Jaden McGrath
Jackson Nelson
Lukas Webb


VIC METRO
Paul Ahern
Angus Brayshaw
Jason Castagna
Damien Cavka
Josh Clayton - (Potential Bris Father Son)
Jordan De Goey
Harry Dear - (Potential Haw Father Son)
Liam Duggan
Corey Ellis
Matthew Goodyear
Billy Gowers
Ed Langdon
Kyle Langford
Jayden Laverde
Jake Lever
Brayden Maynard
Daniel McKenzie
Reece McKenzie
Connor Menadue
Touk Miller
Darcy Moore - (Potential Coll Father Son)
Daniel Nielson
Brenton Payne
Christian Petracca
Marc Pittonet
Ed Vickers-Willis
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Peter Wright


WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Aidan Anderson
Connor Blakely
Jack Cripps
Josh Deluca
Billy Frampton
Jarrod Garlett
Tyler Keitel
Mitch McGovern
Jermaine Miller-Lewis
Jarrod Pickett
Clem Smith
Francis Watson


INTERNATIONAL
Marvin Baynham USA
Paddy Brophy Ireland
Evan Bruinsma USA
Connor McKenna Ireland

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2014 State Combine invites.

Note: NSW/ACT, NT and Tas nominees will likely attend the Vic State Screening

Dates: Vic - Sat Oct 4, SA - Sat Oct 11, WA - Sun Oct 12.



NSW/ACT
Liam Griffiths - (Potential GWS Academy Player)
Jordan Foote - (Potential Syd Academy Player)

NORTHERN TERRITORY
Marcus Hamilton


QUEENSLAND
Robert Blood - (Potential GC Academy Player)
Paul Hunter
Will Kristelly - (Potential Bris Academy Player)


SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Sam Baulderstone
Mac Bower
Henry Carey
Brad Coulson
Ben Edwards
Adam Gulden
Josh Hone
Jake Johansen
Conor McLean
Matt Panos
Zac Richards
Peter Spurling
Brett Turner
Jesse Watchman
Callum Wilkie


TASMANIA
Matt Hanson
Caleb Hislop
Tim Jones
Mitch Rainbird
Josh Watts

VFL
Daniel Coghlan
Michael Hartley
Jack Johnstone
Adam Marcon
Nick Newman
Jake Owen
Adam Saad
Sam Tagliabue
Shannon Taylor


VIC COUNTRY
Sam Bennett
Bailey Dale
Daniel Davie
Nick Dixon
Billy Evans
Campbell Floyd
Dylan Hodge
Harrison Kol
Joe Maishman
Oscar McDonald
Nick Mellington
David Mennen
Teia Miles
Jesse Palmer
Tom Templeton
Aaron Wilson


VIC METRO
Ben Allan
Hugh Beasley
Will Fordham
Jayden Foster - (Potential WB Father/Son)
Taylor Grace
Matt Jackson
Bailey Jordan
Mark Kovacevic
Michael Manteit
Garrett McDonagh
Sean McLaren
Toby McLean
Billy Myers
Rielly O'Brien
Fraser Pearce
Rory Sheridan-Ferrie
Jayden Short
Jack Sinclair
Sam Switkowski
Ryan Tester
Lachlan Waddell
Tom Wilkinson


WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Brenden Abbott
Matthew Ah Siu
Sam Bevan
Blaine Boekhorst
Darcy Cameron
Rick Cary
Adam Creeper
Jarrod Hardisty
Alex Howard
Ryan Lim
Cameron Loersch
Dylan Nelson
Matthew Palfrey
Haiden Schloithe
Bradley Walsh
Alec Waterman - (Potential WCE Father/Son)
Dylan Winton
Shane Yarran

[pvcyclone]

Nice work divvy.

Also, fwiw, the mature agers above (may have missed 1 or two):

National combine:
Brett Eddy (South Adelaide)
Josh Glenn (Centrals)
Mitch McGovern (Claremont)

State:
Sam Baulderstone (Norwood)
Matt Panos (Norwood)
Dan Coghlan (Essendon VFL)
Sam Tagliabue (Essendon VFL)
Adam Saad (Coburg)
Michael Hartley (Coburg)
Jack Johnstone (Williamstown)
Jake Owen (Williamstown)
Adam Marcon (Williamstown)
Nic Newman (Frankston)
Shannon Taylor (Frankston)
Blaine Boekhorst (Swan Districts)
Darcy Cameron (Claremont)
Brendan Abbott (Claremont)
Rick Cary (Swan Districts)
Haiden Schloithe (South Fremantle)
Shane Yarran (Subiaco)
Alex Howard (Swan Districts)

[divvydan]

Interesting to see Matt Panos back in there. Was a lead up full-forward in his junior days and failed to get a chance at AFL level as he wasn't able to do anything else. Has gone to Norwood and from all reports has been playing as a midfielder.

[dylan123]

I think Eddy is the leading goal kicker in the SANFL.

[pvcyclone]

I think Eddy is the leading goal kicker in the SANFL.

Correct.

Collingwood fans may also remember him from their VFL side in 2011-12.

Nearly drafted in 2011 but busted his ACL. Understandably it has taken him a little time to find his feet again

[pvcyclone]

Half random statement, half draft related, but is Dillon Viojo-Rainbow the greatest name of ALL time or wat?

[Wogitalia]

Still impartial to Che Cockatoo-Collins.

[Ben the Gooner]

Still impartial to Che Cockatoo-Collins.

One of my absolute favourites as a young kid.

[Wogitalia]

One of my absolute favourites as a young kid.

Good and fun player, better name

[pvcyclone]

Has been a bit of talk this year about the NSW/QLD academies, where by the Swans, Giants, Suns and Lions effectively get first dibs on players from their home states.

This is largely due to the Swans' leading academy player this year Isaac Heeney who the Swans are likely to pick with their first rounder. Heeney is rated a top 5 pick by many.

There have also been some suggestions that the academy/FS bidding system may be overhauled.

CLUBS will pay a fairer price for young talent if the AFL adopts a revised father-son and Academy bidding system presented to AFL CEOs.

Under the proposal, each draft pick would be assigned value according to a statistical formula that will allocate points to each draft selection.

These values would then be used to determine the fair price a club should pay if it wants to acquire a father-son or Academy selection.

Under the current system a club only has to select the nominated player with its next available pick if an opposition club bids for him.

The proposed system would also include a discount or credit to ensure clubs investing in father-son and academy programs retained enough incentive to continue to invest in developing that talent.

If accepted it would mean that a club might have to use more than just its first-round pick if acquiring highly sought-after talent.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-0...idding-changes

The debate seems likely to get a whole lot larger next season if no changes are made to the current system.

Callum Mills, who is a Swans Academy member, eligible for next season's draft, played his 2nd NEAFL game on the weekend for the Swans reserves as a 17 year old. Now we know the NEAFL isn't exactly the same standard as the SANFL/WAFL/VFL. His stats for the game: 21 kicks, 19 handballs, 40 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles.
There are some suggestions that at this early stage, Mills would be the #1 pick in an open market. A lot can happen in 12 months but f*** me those are impressive numbers. Seems absolutely ludicrous that the Swans should get two top 5 picks in two years for the price of effectively two end of first round picks.

I understand the principle of the Academies, to allow more talent from QLD/NSW access to the elite pathways, and to in general get more guys from those regions drafted, but really, does Sydney in any way deserve another leg up? Again, I reckon you can make a much stronger argument that GWS and GC should continue to have first access to the Academy players, because after all they don't have the opportunity to sign Father Son options like many other clubs. But Sydney and the Lions now have both the FS and the Academy players. Just imagine if Joe Daniher had in fact chosen to go to Sydney (where he was eligible to go). That would've meant that in the last 3 years and the next 2, they would've picked up as many as 4 guys (Tom Mitchell, Daniher, Heeney & Mills) rated as top 5-10 draft picks for end of first round picks. Seems beyond farcical.

/ rant

[Big Sledge #32]

I think the academy itself has to stay. I just think that they need to remove AFL club's participation in it.

This isn't so much a Sydney thing (even if they are the barometer for public interest here) it is the ridiculous advantage it can provide 4 teams in the comp.

If Adelaide or Port got first dibs on the best SA talent they could have had all of Trengove, Hurn, Gibbs, Griffen & Cooney running around for SA based clubs and would be absolute powerhouses.

Same for the Perth clubs if they got first dibs on the WA talent.

The market needs to develop, but the AFL should take on that burden and remove the inherent inequality there.

[dylan123]

Why is it the Father Son and Academy picks are being put into the same basket? I'd like to see the Father Son system stay the exact same myself, maybe because Adelaide is yet to have a father son pick yet and might in the next few years so it would be shit to have to pay more.

[Big Sledge #32]

Father son picks got a massive overhaul after the Geelong era where they got Ablett, Ablett, Hawkins and others from FS picks in the mid 30s/40s.

That's why we have bidding.

The academy is very different, 4 clubs are getting access to the best talent in their state and only have to give up minimal costing to get these players. The opportunities to keep get players fro the academy is much more consistent than finding a draftable kid from the handful of players who played 100+ games for your club. That is why they are separate imo. Because the chance that this becomes another huge advantage for a select few clubs really needs to be altered before it creates an imbalance in the league.

[dylan123]

I assume one of those Ablett's should be Scarlett?

If the overhaul then forced these clubs to bid on them like the father/son picks then I've got no issue.

But with the mention on father/son picks it seems they want to clamp down further on this as well as change how players from the academy are drafted.


Edit: Completely forgot about Nathan

[pvcyclone]

Yeah I agree. FS should certainly be different.

I would've thought that the ability of the Qld/NSW clubs to have these academy players train with them and play with their reserves' sides would be advantage enough. Come draft time they would already have a far greater idea of the worth of the players than other clubs.

I believe for example FS prospects are only allowed to train with their aligned club in their draft year. Prior to that they are prohibited from being too involved with them, yet the academy players are given a leg up by training in the elite environment earlier. I have no issue with that at all, but it's unnecessary to then allow priority access from the clubs .

The top end talent doesn't need to be tied to the Qld/Nsw clubs to be drafted. And if other players in the academies are good enough to be drafted then there's a fair chance that they remain in their home states anyway, much like how Adelaide clubs are more likely to draft SA players and WA clubs the same with WA players to remove the go home factor.