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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangamagic View Post
    was he drunk or something? or just out late alone or with bad people?
    Just out late with friends. You'd think after missing out last year he'd get as much sleep as possible before the combine and prepare himself - definitely not a good look for him.

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    I think he will get picked up, in either ND or rookie draft - he had a great year in the WAFL and I am sure the club that picks him will sort him out.
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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    By the way, Dom Sheed is sick with flu whilst at combine. Coughed up half a lung when doing beep test yesterday, hasn't trained much since surgery on broken collarbone so don't expect much at the combine from him.
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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Josh Kelly just broke the 3km time trial record with a 9.32, probably locks him into the top 3 now.

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Kelly with great footskills + excellent endurance = ready made fantasy footballer

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Quote Originally Posted by divvydan View Post
    Josh Kelly just broke the 3km time trial record with a 9.32, probably locks him into the top 3 now.
    Was also 5th in repeat sprints.

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    WHO'S THE BEST?
    Tom Boyd should be the No.1 pick, and will be. You don't pass up 200-centimetre marking forwards who kick accurately, even if you're Greater Western Sydney and already have Jeremy Cameron and Jon Patton. They'll find room for all three easily enough. Recruiting Boyd will mean Patton should feel less pressure to rush back from his knee injury, and Boyd provides a slight point of difference to that pair. He doesn't like throwing players around like Patton and he doesn't roam like Cameron, but he reads the ball as well as both and is mobile and big enough to pinch-hit in the ruck.
    There are plenty of good midfielders in this group, but Boyd has them matched for talent, and with Jesse Hogan already at Melbourne he is by far the best of his type. The Giants won't get another shot at another tall forward like him. On top of that, he's a smart, sensible young man, a mature one who understands the world he will be stepping into and what it will demand of him. Boyd could have given up on the season when he badly injured his ankle in June; instead he kept working hard at his rehabilitation program and was able to get back, play in the TAC Cup grand final after three months out and help the Eastern Ranges win its first premiership in years. It was impressive.

    WHO'S NEXT?
    There's a bunch of them. My pick would be Josh Kelly, an onballer who reminded everyone of his relentless attitude by running a 9.32 three-kilometre time trial on the final day of the combine - three seconds off the record - less than a day after reaching level 15 in the beep test. He's not necessarily a flashy player, and is still developing his inside game, but he does everything to an extremely high level, a bit like Andrew Gaff did in his draft year, has skill and poise, and is so diligent that it's hard to see him not becoming an excellent AFL player. Matt Scharenberg is a 190-centimetre utility who could play in a number of positions, and James Aish is about to play in his second SANFL grand final as a 17-year-old who has come back from a shoulder reconstruction and dealt with being tagged. He has class. There's a lot of love, too, for Jack Billings, whose season has been unsettled by niggling injuries and recently had minor knee surgery. He'll be drafted as a smart forward - perhaps the classiest player in the draft - but has scope to become a midfielder.

    … AND THEN?
    Ben Lennon will be picked high, but hasn't proven himself as a midfielder and will be picked as one of the smartest forwards in it, with one of the sharpest kicks. Cameron McCarthy is an athletic, marking forward likely to push up the order despite missing the second half of the year with a broken leg, and Kade Kolodjashnij and Marcus Bontempelli are smooth-moving half-backs who could move up the ground. But the first round will be filled mostly with onballers. Lewis Taylor has dash - he's a give-and-goer, a player who takes the game on. Nathan Freeman has some explosiveness and Billy Hartung is quick, smart and able to keep going. He broke Brad Hill's beep-test record at the combine, reaching level 16.6. Those three have the most speed, but there are plenty of others to pick from. Expect Christian Salem, Dom Sheed, Trent Dumont, Luke Dunstan, Matt Crouch and Blake Acres to feature in the first 18-20 picks.

    WHERE ARE THE TALL FORWARDS?
    There aren't many, at least in the first batch. Boyd is the clear first choice, but McCarthy is one who could push right up into the top 10. He wasn't really on the radar before this year, but forced his way into the West Australian team late and looked like he belonged there.
    He throws himself at the ball, loves taking marks, and reads the play instinctively. Mitch Harvey played well for South Australia in the national championships, and Jonathon Marsh is an interesting prospect. He's 192 centimetres, doesn't play like your usual key forward and is more of a roamer, but is super quick and can do some quirky, unexpected things. Some clubs struggle to see where he'd fit in and wouldn't pick him, but he'll appeal to someone. A couple of key defenders could go reasonably early, too: Darcy Gardiner and Tom Cutler.

    WHERE ARE THE RUCKMEN?
    They're harder to spot and it's hard to see any of them getting picked before, say, the high 20s or 30s. Ben Brown, who played for Werribee this year, could be first off the block, with Tasmanian Toby Nankervis and West Australian Rory Lobb in the mix.

    WILL DAYLE GARLETT GET A CHANCE?
    It's hard to say right now. He only needs one club to call his name to get a chance, after being very publicly overlooked last year, but many remain dubious. That's largely to do with his perceived lack of discipline off the field, but it's important to note that he is very much a work in progress as a footballer, too.
    Garlett has exceptional skill and creativity, and has shown both at senior level in WA. But he doesn't yet have the endurance to play in the midfield and, as a forward, doesn't show a natural inclination to chase, tackle and harass.
    Combine that with the off-field stuff, and and he's no certainty at all to get a go this year. He wants a shot, he's played well, he has some fierce defenders at Swan Districts and he has made some important changes to his life this year, settling down somewhat, losing weight, becoming fitter and limiting the partying.
    In his favour is the fact that there aren't all that many dynamic players in this year's group, but it was disappointing to hear that he didn't show for one of his club interviews this week.
    His best chance might be with one of the few clubs taking more than three or four picks, or as a rookie, in which case clubs would have to give him only a one-year contract and he'd arrive knowing that if he mucks up once, he'll be gone.

    LUKE MCDONALD FOR PICK 8 - A GOOD DEAL?
    Absolutely. A better result for North Melbourne, of course, would have been to make the finals and get their father-son pick in the early teens.
    But No. 8 is fair for a player who many clubs would have rated inside the top 10.
    As a footballer, McDonald is naturally competitive, someone who influences what happens around him. He's a little like Hawthorn's Luke Hodge in the way he can start on the half-back line and crash in through the middle, and he looked very comfortable playing in the VFL finals this year.
    He has a warm personality and is a player who draws his peers to him. Channel that the right way, as he has done so far, and he'll be a future leader at North.
    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...005-2v13o.html

    As usual, excellent draft summary by Emma Quayle.

    Interesting that of the three rucks mentioned, one is more of a KPF (Ben Brown), Rory Lobb is 20 and Toby Nankervis is a year older too at 19. Sounds like the big-men decided to give 2013 a rest.
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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Updated draft rankings on the AFL site. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-09/phantom-draft


    After a three-month layoff with his ankle injury, which led to a calf niggle, Boyd returned to footy in the TAC Cup Grand Final and kicked four goals. He didn't test at the combine but remains the best player of the draft as a tall, strong and powerful forward. Has carried the tag as the No.1 pick all year with little apparent trouble, and will be ready to join an AFL club.


    The classy midfielder hit some form at the back end of the year at senior SANFL level for Norwood, but had a few quiet weeks in between. He played in the club's back-to-back premiership triumph on Sunday and gathered 15 disposals. For the first time Aish has dealt with a really hard tag, which has been a learning experience. Aish makes things look easy, is composed, and likes to run with the ball.


    It wasn't an easy season for Billings, but he is still one of the best players of this year's draft. After managing a knee issue throughout the year he had a minor operation in August, which kept him out of action for the combine. Billings has played a lot of his footy across half-forward but will become a midfielder. What places him this high is his capacity to be a matchwinner: he needs only a moment to turn a game with a goal, clean pick-up or overhead mark.


    On Monday, North Melbourne snapped up McDonald as a father-son selection, and will use pick eight in the draft to recruit him. He's definitely worth it. McDonald's VFL finals series for Werribee showcased his talent, with the long-kicking, game-breaking defender dominant. He averaged almost 25 disposals across the three games, and showed he was up to it at that level. Energetic, driven and competitive, McDonald is set to feature for North next year.


    Kelly reminded everyone of his persistent attitude in the combine, when he strode towards the win in the three-kilometre time trial. As well as his endurance base, Kelly has added some burst speed to his game, evident when he ran fifth in the repeat sprints test. The 18-year-old is up there as the best pure midfielder in this year's crop and has done everything to prove himself as an early pick.


    The mobile utility has had a foot injury that's sidelined him for about a month, something that occurred through overuse. That won't make any difference to his standing in this year's draft, given he has shown his ability over the last two years. Scharenberg has spent a majority of the year through half-back but also moved into the middle and occasionally in attack. He is quick, smart, and uses the ball well.


    Lennon proved at the end of the season he can, and will, be a midfielder. Over a five-week stretch, he averaged 28 disposals a game for the Northern Knights and moved out of his more customary role across half-forward to start things in the middle. Lennon gives this draft some excitement. He marks strongly on the lead and is sharp by foot, but also knows his way around goal, pinpoints passes, and backs himself with the ball.


    He has come from the clouds a little bit this year, but Kolodjashnij continues to firm as one of the best players available. After a strong under-18 championships for Tasmania, the creative half-back continued that form at local level. What makes Kolodjashnij so highly rated is the fact he is as much footballer as athlete: he baulks and weaves out of trouble but can also run quick and jump high, as seen in his combine testing.


    Freeman is the bolter of this year's draft having quietly crept up on a few of his contemporaries and he has done it through being dynamic. The strong-bodied midfielder finished the year well with the Sandringham Dragons, is a reliable kick, and loves to win the ball at stoppages and then burst from them. Showed his running prowess at the combine when he was ranked quickest for the repeat sprints (23.62 seconds), second for the 20-metre sprint (2.82 seconds) and 10th for the beep test (level 14.10).


    A serious foot injury won't harm Taylor's draft position, despite it ruling him out of the end of the TAC Cup season. The small and powerful midfielder sat out of Geelong Falcons' finals campaign, and is still in a moonboot after surgery last month on a cracked bone. Taylor's size might count against him in the eyes of some but he's an excellent player, and one with spark.


    Salem can play just about anywhere, and does it all with a layer of class, or several for that matter. He is a strongly-built midfielder who has been used variously on the wing, through half-back and also close to goal. He kicks precisely and with depth on his left foot, and is also better overhead than just about all of the players his size.


    The leaping forward hasnít played since he broke his leg in the final game of the under-18 championships, but that hasn't really affected him as a top draft prospect. McCarthy is the second best tall available in the draft given his marking ability and goalkicking. The West Australian is tall and athletic and covers the ground well, making him sought-after.


    Bontempelli has shot up to 194cm, is still yet to turn 18, and has the athletic prowess of few players in the draft pool. They are the main reasons that have pushed him up the order, coupled with the fact he finished the season strongly. Bontempelli likes to link things up through the middle of the ground, hold the ball in one hand and waltz down the wing. He can also play across half-forward or half-back.



    Perhaps the best ball-winner in the draft, Crouch finds possessions more often than almost any player available, is quick with his hands, and a stoppage specialist. The left-footer, whose brother Brad made an immediate impact at AFL level with Adelaide this season, doesn't have a strong aerobic base, yet, but knows how to hunt the ball and make it his.


    Underlined his elite endurance last week at the combine, when he ran an all-time record 16.6 in the beep test. Hartung set himself to break Bradley Hill's 16.1, set in 2011, and willed himself up and down the line. The Dandenong Stingray is small but has elite foot skills, a burst of speed, and clearly can run all day. He brings some zip to every game he plays, be it through the middle, close to goal or streaming from half-back.


    Acres is the modern-draft prospect. He's tall, quick, agile, can jump, mark and kick, and play nearly any position on the ground. Problem is that he's barely played this season, after a shoulder injury ruined his year and forced him into surgery. In nine games at colts level for West Perth, Acres played as an inside midfielder and averaged 27 disposals.


    Sheed could, and probably will, be drafted earlier than pick 17 come next month's draft. But given it's a year full of midfielders, each club and on-looker has slightly different opinions as to where to rank every player in the top bracket. Sheed's season ended with a high-quality performance in June when he broke his collarbone against Vic Country, having collected 29 disposals and kicked four goals. Kicks it long and attacks the contest.


    Was close to best on ground for Norwood in its SANFL premiership win on Sunday, having collected 20 disposals across half-forward and through the midfield. Only at stages this year has Dumont been able to show his wares at full fitness, and when he does he looks a real first-round prospect. Hard, tough, and with a little bit of dash, Dumont could step easily into an AFL system.


    Dunstan has been sidelined of late by a leg injury, a disappointing end to a solid year from the bullocking midfielder. The South Australian captained his side to its division one winning championship mid-year, and is a strong leader. Averaged 23 disposals for his state side, of which almost 40 per cent were contested.


    Pushed back down the list a touch but remains one of the better defenders available this year. The 193cm prospect is competitive, resilient and aggresive and is a fighter. As a Key defender he wills himself to the contest and throws himself at the ball

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Also I would suggest it is highly likely the positions listed in the pictures for each player were provided by CD, meaning it's quite likely that the positions listed will be the player's fantasy position next season

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Handy to know.

    Means that McDonald would be available in the backline. Will make the prospect of picking him a little better.

    Not too many other options for multi pos players but depending on where the players available get picked there is still that chance

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Praying McCarthty can slide to Freo's first round pick.

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    Bit early I know but next year's draft is shaping up to be a very good one from early reports and has many more KPP size players in the top echelon. Clubs with early picks that need both (#1 aside) are likely to go mid this year and look tall next year.

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Am I the only one who sees a lot of collusion in this draft with trades between various teams in the top 11? I'd be pretty comfortable banking something like this:

    1. Boyd
    2-6. Aish/Kelly/Scharenberg/Billings/Kalashnikovjjj
    7.
    8. McDonald
    9. Freeman
    10.
    11. Sheed

    regardless of what the Giants and Pies like at 7 and 10.
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    Yeah...pick 8 is a clear sign of corruption.

    Seriously though, phantom drafts get close to nailing the top 15 every year. You can bet every recruiting team does their own and asks around to see who they're likely to get where. Acres at 11 another strong possibility. Eagles would be happy with either.

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    Re: 2013 AFL Draft thread

    Almost all reports have Josh Kelly going at #2 to GWS now I think

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